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Breaking: There Will Be a Do-Over Caucus, MDP Reaches Agreement (Misreported by WUOM ...)

by: philgoblue

Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 18:39:04 PM EST


Update III: OK, so the report by WUOM was incorrect and they've stated so online and on the air.  Still, let's hope that the DNC and MDP can reach an agreement for a caucus as soon as possible (June is a bad idea, April is better and early May is OK, but if we want to actually matter the sooner the better).

Michigan Public Radio just reported that the  MDP has reached an agreement to old a do-over Presidential Caucus. It'll be on a Saturday, details forthcoming.

Hurah!  Way to go Mark and the Guv!  Finally (and I have to say I told you so) YOU GOT IT RIGHT!

This should be a great way to leave the battles over the primary behind us and move forward with Party building throughout Michigan, getting the candidates to address Michigan issues, etc.

More when I get a chance.

Update II:

This is up on the MPR site (did they let it slip out too soon?)

MICHIGAN RADIO INCORRECTLY REPORTED WEDNESDAY EVENING THAT A DEAL HAD BEEN REACHED TO HOLD A NEW DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATING CONTEST.
NO DEAL IS IN PLACE, THOUGH STATE & NATIONAL PARTY LEADERS, AS WELL AS THE CLINTON AND OBAMA CAMPAIGNS CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THEIR OPTIONS.

WE SINCERELY REGRET THE ERROR.

philgoblue :: Breaking: There Will Be a Do-Over Caucus, MDP Reaches Agreement (Misreported by WUOM ...)
Obviously this is big enough news to be here even though it's state-wide news.

Update I:
This is the most up-to-date print report from the AP -- it might give us an idea of whatever agreement has been or is in the process of being reached/finalized:

Do-Over in Michigan and Florida?
By NEDRA PICKLER - 1 hour ago (6:30 pm)

WASHINGTON (AP) - Officials in Michigan and Florida are showing renewed interest in holding repeat presidential nominating contests so that their votes will count in the epic Democratic campaign.

The governors of both states, along with top officials in Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign, are now saying they would consider holding a sort of do-over contest by June. That's a change from their previous insistence that the primaries their states held in January should determine how the states' delegates are allocated.

Clinton won both contests, but the results were meaningless because the elections violated national party rules. Neither Clinton nor her rival Barack Obama campaigned in either state, and Obama's name wasn't even on the Michigan ballot.....

Now the Clinton campaign has begun expressing openness to a do-over. "Let's let all of the voters go again if they are willing to do it," said Clinton adviser Terry McAuliffe Tuesday night on MSNBC. "Whatever we have to do to get people in the system, let's do it."

The new contests could be part of a strategy for Clinton to come back in the race and attract votes from superdelegates who are not bound by any primary or caucus votes, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell told the network. "Let's assume for the moment Hillary Clinton wins Ohio and Texas, she wins Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan have primaries in June, she wins both of those," said Rendell, who has endorsed Clinton. "Then, can the superdelegates look at that and say, `Gosh, she's won the last five big primaries in a row. She's won almost every big primary since we began.'"

Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Clinton supporter, told the Detroit Free Press that Clinton's victory in Ohio changes "the landscape a bit." She said it could open the door to a caucus, if it can be privately funded and both candidates agree....

Getting funding from the national committee might be difficult when the party has a general election to wage. Last August, the DNC offered to pay for a later, alternate contest, but the Florida state party rejected the idea.

Michigan Democrats are discussing holding a "firehouse" contest in May or June that would be an alternative to a traditional primary or caucus and run by the state party, said a Democratic Party official who has been part of the discussions. "Firehouse" contests usually have fewer polling places and shorter voting hours than traditional state-run primary elections.

The party official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions are private, said there was general consensus that it could not be held at taxpayers' expense and would attempt to generate participation from about 1 million state Democrats.

House and Senate Democrats from Florida and Michigan planned to meet Wednesday night on Capitol Hill to discuss ways of getting their state's delegates seated at the Democratic National Convention, Democratic aides said.

The Obama campaign says whether to have a repeat contest is up to the national committee, but has signaled a willingness to participate. "We're going to abide by their rules as they exist now and whatever happens in the future," Obama campaign manager David Plouffe told reporters Wednesday....

"I don't think it's for our campaign or her campaign - we're in a heated contest here - to have to be the facilitators here," Plouffe said. "This is between the DNC and those state parties."

http://ap.google.com/article/A...

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WooHoo! (4.00 / 2)
Can anyone find any news reports on this?

Nothing up yet on Michigan Radio site. (4.00 / 2)


[ Parent ]
The word I heard in the Michigan Radio story was 'contest'. (4.00 / 3)
They did not use the word 'caucus'. But what else could it be? The only thing that makes sense is the MDP-run election we have traditionally called a caucus.

OK - couple deep breaths - let's wait for some details.


Tea-Leaf Reading (4.00 / 2)
Did MPR read a note that they weren't supposed to?  That's my guess, but I'm a historian and when things slip out like this I assume human error.

Also interesting that the headline that MLive gives the AP story is

Michigan Democrats appear to yield on primary do-over

That "appear" is an interesting hedge.

It's clear that there are some incredible negotiations going on in DC and Lansing as we speak.  

Keep the updates coming.

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Good luck with that (0.00 / 0)
     I'll believe it when I see it.

    If you can get Edwards to endorse Obama, phil, and then have a few thousand of Edwards' friends in the UAW peacefully visit the next MDP central committee meeting, now that might get somewhere as for promoting a caucus...


More evidence of a do-over in the works (4.00 / 1)
Eric has a diary up on MichLib offering more evidence that a caucus will happen. Here is a link to the article he sites:

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs...


the gist (4.00 / 3)
A member of the DNC's Rules And Bylaws Committee--the committee that stripped Florida and Michigan of its delegates for moving their primaries before February 5th--told me that Michigan plans to get out of its uncounted delegate problem by announcing a new caucus in the next few days.

"They want to play. They know how to do caucuses," the DNC source said. "That was their plan all along, before they got cute with the primary."

I keep hearing "May" and I'm afraid it could be over by then if Obama recovers in PA and puts her away in NC.

We need to be ASAP, with a pref for BEFORE PA.

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I don't see what should take more than (4.00 / 3)
six or seven weeks or so. There needs to be time for people to request mail-in ballots, have those go out, and be returned. But surely seven weeks would be enough - - Sat. April 19 caucus!!

[ Parent ]
From an elected delegate standpoint (4.00 / 1)
it most likely is "over".  

Get ready for "Night of the Living Superdelegates", the scariest and most divisive political drama ever created.

Maybe HC and BO should do a Dingell; you know, a coin flip.


[ Parent ]
Arbinder at 8:45 am, we're "on the verge" (4.00 / 1)
Michigan's On The Verge of Announcing A Revote By Caucus

http://marcambinder.theatlanti...


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